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Wednesday, November 03, 2004

Something Stinks Here... I Don't Trust Karl Rove

I have no evidence and can't put my finger on it, but something smells here. This election is too close, with too much of the electorate not approving of Bush, not feeling secure, not approving of Iraq, and so on, but the Republicans are supposedly "winning" in the raw votes in so many swing states, this with the largest get-out-the-vote efforts in history.

I have personally seen to many people out there, too many people getting out the vote for this to happen.

I don't know what it is, but Karl Rove is up to something. Either there are fake ballots, rigged machines, or something I haven't imagined. There's a scam going on and it will show up eventually.

Don't forget that Ohio has a hostile Secretary of State who has done whatever he can to disenfranchise Democratic voters, and there have been HUGE lines for up to TEN hours especially in Democratic strongholds. Was there a plan to do whatever they could to interfere? I think yes.

But there's another piece missing. I just hope it shows up soon.

If you have any ideas, post them here or email me.


7 Comments:

  • At November 3, 2004 at 9:18 AM, Blogger the urban fox said…

    I've been reading a lot of speculation that the voting machines are inaccurate. One source claimed that in areas where there was touchscreen voting, the call shows a 5% higher Republican vote than the exit poll results. In areas with a paper trail to check, the call matches exit polls exactly. I'm not based in America but I guess those who are may want to investigate.

    Incidentally, one account of Karl Rove's background: http://tbrnews.org/Archives/a1160.htm#001

     
  • At November 5, 2004 at 12:08 AM, Anonymous Anonymous said…

    Throughout late summer & early fall: I kept reading most unfortunate reports of 3 states whose officials [who are legally charged with running elections] were diligently being politically 1-sided & bossy. Regrettably, when we kept hearing that Kerry needed to win 2 of 3 highly divided states with numerous electoral votes, we observed 2 of the 3 whose electional officials were famous for lop-sided, rigid enforcement of SOME election laws, while disregarding others, & making rules which they treated as most important, inflexible laws. OHIO & FLORIDA & MISSOURI were the states whose election-managing officials kept running into challenges, even court challenges, yet REFUSED to administer elections that even looked fair in the weeks ahead of time. Is it any wonder that Bush won every 1 of those 3 in relatively close races??

    Gallup Polls "conditioned" us to accept that Bush was running way ahead of Kerry, since Gallup polled 7-8% more Republicans than Democrats (despite national registration being 7-8% more Democratic) on grounds that Republicans were much more apt to vote than Democrats.

    There are many more factors, but the known-ahead details of gross unfairness in managing preparations for the 2004 General Election in Ohio & Missouri & Florida rendered close polls in those states to be meaningless.

     
  • At November 5, 2004 at 1:06 PM, Anonymous Anonymous said…

    Get over it...can't you just believe that the voters have spoken? Talk about sore losers!!

    George Bush won both the popular vote (by too large a number to be rigged!) and the electoral vote...so GET OVER IT and MOVE ON!! Stop whinning and get a clue...you guys are out of touch with reality...this country is smarter than you and will not fall for all the lies and wacky accusations you come up with...I am amazed by your thinking (or lack of it!)

    Did you ever take or pass history class? Our country was founded on free enterprise and Christian values....thank goodness there are still enough people who want that to persist in this great country!!

    It is a Republic whose people have voted (in over whelming numbers) to retain the current President....if you want to play the game then check the rule book...and stop whining about the outcome. Find a candidate you can support not just vote out someone whom you HATE!

    As to the War in Irag and Afghanistan...we are winning..and I have a son who is a Marine who is proudly serving...and the troops overwhelmingly wanted Bush re- elected because he knows and they know this is the RIGHT War, in the RIGHT place, at the RIGHT time....if people weren't willing to give their lives for the freedom of our country and others then you wouldn't be able to snivel about any of this!! We would have been taken over by others by now. Again- go read history.

    I keep track of your emails and website - have to know the opposition....you guys are just too crazy to be believed. WAKE up and smell the roses...BUSH is President and you don't have a chance to control the CONGRESS or now the Supreme Court. I thank God every day...by the way...I am not a homophobe...some of my best and dearest friends are gay...you don't speak for all of them.

    God bless.

    Kathy!!

     
  • At November 6, 2004 at 12:55 AM, Anonymous Anonymous said…

    Poor Kathy! She just wants everything her way because of her religion, and to hell with the rest of the country (more than half), who do not share it. She's happy that there are no checks and balances in her government, and does not care about anybody else but herself!

    NO amount of votes are large enough to not be fraudulent! These right wing self-rightous Christians have all been brain washed and the American people have been dupped! The Christians can have their religion, but it should not be imposed on all the rest of us!

    The exit polls do not match the results in the areas where paperless voting machines were used, and this was all done in the states that were in jeopardy for Bush. Kathy is right...people need to WAKE UP! Bush thought he had Pennsylvania in the bag, and apparently didn't take the time to fraudulently take it; and guess what happened? KERRY WON PENNSYLVANIA! Everybody stand up and fight. Everybody demand an investigation of Diebold and every other fraudulent activity you see has taken place! We are not sore losers. We are victims of a hostile take over of our government. We must not back down and be quiet. This is Democracy! Impeach Bush for high crimes and misdemeaners; and prosecute the rest involved for election tampering and fraud!

     
  • At November 6, 2004 at 10:50 AM, Blogger SergeiRostov said…

    Kathy -

    By your logic, if suppose that 100 million votes were cast, and that Bush got 90 million votes which were then thrown out, not counted or what have you, then Kerry would have a 'legitimate' win because he 'won the popular vote' by a 'large margin.' In other words, cheating big is evidence of not cheating, but cheating small isn't? That's one hell of a set of thought/moral processes you have there. No wonder you like Bush.
    You say the US founded on Christian values?!? Funny, Benjamin Franklin, Thomas Jefferson,
    and all the other guys who WROTE its founding
    documents disagree with you. The Bill of Rights, for
    example, was itself based on the social/moral codes of certain American Indian tribes and NOT on 'Christian values':

    Christian Bible vs. US Constitution

    "Thou shalt have no other gods before Me"
    vs.
    "freedom of religion"

    OOPS!

    "Thou shalt not take the name of the Lord
    thy God in vain"
    vs.
    "freedom of speech"

    OOPS!

    "Thou shalt not lie"
    vs.
    "freedom of speech"

    OOPS!

    "turn the other cheek"
    "do not resist evil"
    vs.
    "right to bear arms"

    OOPS!


    And since when is "free enterprise"
    compatible with Christianity?


    "free enterprise" vs. Christian Bible

    in a universe of finite resources, getting
    more means taking it away from someone else
    vs.
    "thou shalt not steal"

    OOPS!


    "keeping up with the Joneses"
    "he's got one, why don't you?"
    vs.
    "thou shalt not covet"

    OOPS!

    "greed is good"
    vs.
    "it is easier for a camel to pass through
    the eye of a needle than for a rich man
    to enter the kingdom of Heaven"

    OOPS!

    "he who dies with the most toys, wins"
    vs.
    "give all you have to the poor"

    OOPS!

    -------------------------

    As for Afghanistan and Iraq, if we're "winning"
    in those places, then how come

    In Afghanistan:

    Opium production has doubled, with
    the money from its sale going to terrorists;
    The country outside of its capital,
    Kabul, is controlled by warlords, terrorists,
    drug dealers, and the Taliban;
    The recent "election" covered a tiny fraction of the country (and despite this had more registered voters than total possible voters in the entire country), had erasable ink on the ballots,
    no debates, and only one candidate (all the others dropped out as a protest against the widespread and
    obvious fraud).

    and in Iraq:

    US troop deaths per day are on the rise;

    despite 30 years of improvements in
    military technology, tactics, and training,
    US troop deaths as a result of the invasion
    and occupation are higher on a per capita basis
    than they were during the Vietman War;
    insurgent attacks are becoming more and more sophisticated;
    the number of insurgents is increasing, and
    the rate of increase itself is rising;
    the once-safe "Green Zone" is now the "Orange Zone";

    and with all this in mind, consider that:

    due the administration's failure to plan
    and prepare adequately for the aftermath of the invasion, US troops are low on body armor and food
    and are even running out of bullets;
    98% of the Iraqi people view us as "occupiers" rather than "liberators";

    (and, more than any other choice, by a wide margin...)

    if elections were held today, 43% of them
    would vote to have Saddam Hussein back.

    If that's winning, I'd hate to see losing.

     
  • At November 6, 2004 at 11:38 AM, Anonymous Anonymous said…

    Well said, Sergei!

     
  • At November 2, 2006 at 3:01 PM, Anonymous Anonymous said…

    Hey Kathy: Turn off Faux News and read a newspaper! What kind of "Christian Values" does this group of liars and crooks exhibit.

    It only took a few states (Ohio, Florida, Missouri) to rig the election. Throw out a few thousand black votes here and there and you are in business.

    There is supposed to be a separation between church and state in our government. If the president is such a big Christain, why doesn't he belong to a church in Washington?

     

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